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26  General / Open Discussion / Re: Purchased a quad with a lien still on it, now what? on: December 28, 2014, 01:19:57 AM
Charge-off merely means that the lienholder wrote the debt off as a loss for tax purposes. The loan was not paid off. The reason they can't release the lien is because they sold the debt to a debt collector. But, the debt belongs to the loser who sold the vehicle to you. He's a thief!
27  General / Open Discussion / Re: Purchased a quad with a lien still on it, now what? on: December 17, 2014, 05:50:14 PM
Did the former owner sign his title, as seller, and give it to you? Or, did he give you his Certificate of Origin?  Do you get a bill of sale? If only the latter, you will not be able to legally get a title. You're under no obligation to settle with the lien holder. BTW, if you operate that quad on private property without the landowner's consent or are involved in an accident (regardless of fault) with injuries, the police can impound your quad if you can't prove ownership. A bill of sale is insufficient proof because anyone can make one. Most folks don't know about these risks and get away without it ever happening to them. But, if you crash into someone with insurance, their insurance company may or may not require a police report. Their insurance company may want to recover damages from you. If you hurt someone, you'd have to hope they don't call the cops. If you let others operate your atv and get hurt...........
28  General / Open Discussion / Re: Purchased a quad with a lien still on it, now what? on: December 14, 2014, 10:50:46 AM
Original owner can sell the vehicle, even with a lien on it, as long as the loan against it is paid off immediately. If it is not, then he is liable for the loan/lien, and for any costs incurred by the purchaser, including a lawyer and expenses, and if he certified it lien free (even if it was a bank oversight) then it is considered fraud. Original owner can be arrested. The original owner is the one in trouble and will be the one covering all the expenses. He should immediately transfer the outstanding balance of the lien to another form of loan.
29  General / Open Discussion / Re: Take Action Now on: November 11, 2014, 07:26:36 PM
30  General / Open Discussion / Re: newbie to site and florida, would love info on riding areas and rules? on: November 05, 2014, 07:24:34 PM
I'm sorry, but, down in Florida we have an epidemic of mutants who steal these vehicles and make mutant vehicles out of the stolen vehicle parts. So, if you don't agree with the requirement for a title, too bad! The requirement has been in effect for several years and will eventually weed out the mutants who've made it difficult for the rest of us.
31  General / Open Discussion / Re: Side By Side Title question on: October 13, 2014, 09:12:21 PM
Unfortunately, it depends upon the county you're attempting to title it in. Some counties having higher theft rates are insisting upon the previous owner's title or manufacturer's certificate of origin.
32  General / Where to Ride? / Re: New Riding Spot coming to Fort Meade...Bones Valley ATV Park on: October 03, 2014, 04:27:45 PM
33  General / Tech Corner / Re: need a hitch on: August 22, 2014, 05:06:52 PM
34  General / Where to Ride? / Re: 2013 Centennial Trail - Ocala National Forest on: August 05, 2014, 05:59:08 PM
Any tag agency can help you. Give them a call.
35  General / Where to Ride? / Re: Florida Cracker Ranch on: July 21, 2014, 09:34:16 PM
ONF gets federal funding, hence only $75. How much does it cost for a couple or family for a day at Disney World? How much do folks pay to attend NFL, NHL, NBA, MLB games, concerts and other entertainment, including casinos, smoking, drinking, etc,? The market will decide whether or not $600 per family memberships will draw customers. Unfortunately for Florida Cracker, ATVers are generally not as supportive of private venues as other recreationalists(tennis, golf, bowling, fishing, hunting, etc.).
36  General / Open Discussion / Re: anyone know of the atv laws being relaxed in putnam county florida...? on: June 26, 2014, 08:00:26 PM
Southeastern Hendry County and northwestern Broward County are atv-friendly. Fortunately, you must be an invited guest and in the presence of a Seminole. Go Noles!
37  General / Group Rides & Events / Re: 4th of July Riding on: June 18, 2014, 05:50:40 PM
http://motomountainpark.com and http://www.acoutdoorpark.com
38  General / Open Discussion / Re: Title for RZR on: April 09, 2014, 08:15:25 PM
All you need is the bill of sale and certificate of origin which the dealer gave you to apply for a title. If tag agency tells you otherwise, go somewhere else or call the State on those lazy pukes.
39  General / Open Discussion / Re: Can-am owners. Did you buy local? on: April 02, 2014, 10:02:02 PM
Mom and Pop operations died a long time ago. And, not just for ATVs! If you don't live in or near a large metro area where you can find a dealer who pushes tons of metal, you won't get the lowest price. Period. Unless, you find a local yo cal going out of business or stuck with last year's models. It ain't just a Can-Am problem.
40  General / Where to Ride? / Re: What are Florida rules/regulations for public riding on: April 01, 2014, 06:27:27 PM
The difference here is that anyone who's actually met Anoriginal has seen what he is, his respect for order(law) and how he actually supports our motorized access to public lands.He doesn't just pay lip service and advocate anarchy.
41  General / Where to Ride? / Re: People riding for free at ONF yesterday on: March 28, 2014, 05:17:28 PM
Via my phone, I can photo/send a check to my bank account and electronically pay bills, but, I can't pay a forest fee with my phone? Please. If ranger Rick didn't have to pick up all those fees at the trailheads, he'd have more time to help Yogi Bear and Boo Boo look for picnic baskets.
42  General / Open Discussion / Re: R.I.P zamora miramar on: March 27, 2014, 07:31:47 PM
Oleta River StatePark? Gwen Margolis Park? Pelican Community Park?
43  General / Where to Ride? / Re: Ocala, Best Place To Camp and Ride? on: March 21, 2014, 04:07:06 PM
Untitled ATVs will earn you a citation, at the very least, in ONF. In the eyes of the law, untitled vehicles encourage vehicle theft. If your "buddy" sold it to you, you may be in possession of stolen property. If they stop you and run the VIN, the vehicle will be impounded and you may be arrested. Not my rules, just the law.
44  General / Where to Ride? / Re: 2013 Centennial Trail - Ocala National Forest on: March 18, 2014, 08:36:08 PM
And, WOW, you love paying those taxes that support our public lands, now don't you?
45  General / Open Discussion / Re: Is anyone interested in a street legal atv? on: February 27, 2014, 09:41:53 PM
I'm dead serious! I don't see a downside to your idea, unless the insurance industry uses it as an excuse to raise rates on my off-road use only ATV. Why is it called an all-terrain vehicle, if you can't drive it on all terrain?
46  General / Open Discussion / Re: Is anyone interested in a street legal atv? on: February 27, 2014, 08:34:00 PM
I'm all for it, we need more organ donors!
47  General / Open Discussion / Re: Texting on: February 07, 2014, 07:21:52 PM
Today, the prosecutor released video of the old man sitting(not standing) behind the texter. The video showed the texter tossing the popcorn from his seat at the old man and immediately getting shot to death. Without any other testimony to support the shooter's right to stand his ground, a jury will feel that the old man had opportunity to retreat, without reasonable fear of violence, and they'll find him guilty of murder, unless he cops a plea. Tossing popcorn(vs. take a swing) is the act of a girly-man. Knowing that, he might have handled it differently. The old man possibly could've reported the popcorn assault, again, and gotten the texter removed from the theater. If he just couldn't accept a popcorn attack, he possibly could have ID'd him and responded some other time.
48  General / Open Discussion / Re: Texting on: January 29, 2014, 08:35:40 PM
They're both victims. There's no winner. What do you think about the news report which stated that a witness held the old man until the cops arrived? Really? An old man shoots a younger man in an alleged moment of rage(vs. fear) and then he simply let's an unarmed bystander hold him for police? Really? And, the younger man was simply treating his wife to a quiet night at the movies? Really? That's the way to show your wife a quiet and relaxing evening? Really?
49  General / Open Discussion / Re: Texting on: January 28, 2014, 10:04:17 PM
I've never said the old man was guilty nor innocent of any law. A few of you guys are the reason defense attorneys make so much money. And, likely the same who wanted Zimmerman found innocent. You're the same folks who brought us the McCarthy era, Salem Witch Hunt, Spanish Inquisition, etc.. And, for all we know, he may take a manslaughter plea, while you work yourselves into a lather over something you cannot control and have very limited facts about.
50  General / Open Discussion / Re: Texting on: January 27, 2014, 07:34:50 PM
The news report states, "The argument began after Oulson asked Reeves if he had reported him to theater staff for using his phone". Was it not enough to ask the texter to be quiet and not enough for the staff to ask him to stop? The texter continued to provoke the confrontation! At what point was he going to cease his verbal and physical assault on a much older man? Old people are more fearful of the potential for great physical harm. The old man may or may not have had the option of returning to his seat in order to move his wife to another location in the theater, before or after the threatening, profane rant of a popcorn throwing texter. Would the texter have provoked a much younger man?
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