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Author Topic: 7.3 SUPERDUTY OWNERS WITH 4R100 AUTO TRANS  (Read 6830 times)
Chuck_Norris
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« on: December 26, 2006, 06:03:07 PM »

Knowing that alot of us have superduty's for our tow rigs here is a little inside track for FORD. BTS or Suncoast have been the names when the 4R100(auto trans) takes a dump. Ford is now releasing a Heavy Duty version of the 4R100 that will be available for order through your local Ford Dealer here is the part numbers for the applciations available. the Tag number on your current trans may be required to get the correct replacement unit.
 

Subject: Launch of Heavy Duty 4R100
 
BACKGROUND

To address customer demand for a heavy duty transmission to meet the high load, severe duty cycle needs of commercial and recreational users, FCSD is releasing an enhanced version of our remanufactured 4R100 transmission. 
This transmission will be Motorcraft branded and offered for customer-paid repairs only. 
FEATURES / BENEFITS
This exciting new product is built with numerous durability and performance upgrades.  These include:

Enhanced Torque Converter for better performance and longer life
Oversize one piece case bushing for improved durability
Enhanced Forward, Direct, and Intermediate Friction plates for longer life under heavy load shifts
All new special upgraded steel plates
Center Support Enhancements for improved gear train life
Mercon V-OIL for greater heat resistance
Oversize Pump Gear Set for improved oil flow
Upgraded Extension Housing Bushing for improved durability
45 Element Intermediate Sprag for greater strength to withstand heavy loads
Special coast clutch drum for improved engine braking and increased durability
All new iron planetary assemblies for improved durability
All new one way clutches for improved durability
All new electronics for improved reliability
Revised calibration gives better shifts for heavy duty use
Improved gasketing for reduced leaks
ORDERING INFORMATION
Order from your Powertrain Distributor.

APPLICATION INFORMATION 

This Heavy Duty transmission is offered in 4 versions to fit non PTO diesel equipped trucks from 1999 to 2003 model years. 
Detailed application data is in the attached file (Excel) (Pdf) as well as Dealer Catalog systems. 
The regular 4R100 applications will still be available.
Order the HD4R100 based on your customer mix keeping in mind fleet, towing, and commercial users will be the likely users of this product.
PRICING

Dealer Net Price is $2494.00 with a $1000.00 core deposit.
Suggested Retail is $3325.33.
This price is very competitive with other heavy duty units available in the market today

Service Part Number   Motorcraft HD4R100 TRM Number      
1999   4R100HD   Super Duty 4X2 F250, 350, 450, 550   7.3L      F81Z7V000HBRM   6U2Z7V000HRM   TRM-1621      
1999   4R100HD   Super Duty 4X4 F250, 350, 450, 550   7.3L      F81Z7V000LBRM   6U2Z7V000LRM   TRM-1622      
2000   4R100HD   Super Duty 4X2 F250, 350, 450, 550   7.3L      F81Z7V000HBRM   6U2Z7V000HRM   TRM-1621      
2000   4R100HD   Super Duty 4X4 F250, 350, 450, 550   7.3L      F81Z7V000LBRM   6U2Z7V000LRM   TRM-1622      
2001   4R100HD   Super Duty 4X2 F250, 350, 450, 550 EXCURSION   7.3L   1C3Z7000EBRM   1C3Z7V000ERM   6U2Z7V000ERM   TRM-1619      
2001   4R100HD   Super Duty 4X4 F250, 350, 450, 550 EXCURSION   7.3L   1C3Z7000FBRM   1C3Z7V000FRM   6U2Z7V000FRM   TRM-1620      
2002   4R100HD   Super Duty 4X2 F250, 350, 450, 550 EXCURSION   7.3L   1C3Z7000EBRM      6U2Z7V000ERM   TRM-1619      
2002   4R100HD   Super Duty 4X4 F250, 350, 450, 550 EXCURSION   7.3L   1C3Z7000FBRM      6U2Z7V000FRM   TRM-1620      
2003   4R100HD   Super Duty 4X2 F250, 350, 450, 550 EXCURSION   7.3L   1C3Z7000EBRM      6U2Z7V000ERM   TRM-1619      
2003   4R100HD   Super Duty 4X4 F250, 350, 450, 550 EXCURSION   7.3L   1C3Z7000FBRM      6U2Z7V000FRM   TRM-1620
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« Reply #1 on: December 26, 2006, 06:38:38 PM »

chuck, does the 1993 powerstrokes have this same transmision?  my father in laws tranny just went out in his 1993 ford.  3rd tranny he has replaced.  I will try to find out, because he will be in the process of replacing the tranny within a few weeks.  Are these tranny's available yet?
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« Reply #2 on: December 26, 2006, 09:35:07 PM »

chuck, does the 1993 powerstrokes have this same transmision?  my father in laws tranny just went out in his 1993 ford.  3rd tranny he has replaced.  I will try to find out, because he will be in the process of replacing the tranny within a few weeks.  Are these tranny's available yet?
I am pretty sure the pwerstroke came out 94.5.  If you Father-In-Law's truck is a 93 & has a 7.3.  It is a IDI International.  If he has the 4 speed tranny (E4OD if I am remembering right) those are a weak point.  From everything I have read they do not hold up to well.  The C6 3 speed is a better tranny from what I have read.  Never had the 4 sp. though.
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« Reply #3 on: December 27, 2006, 09:52:20 PM »

chuck, does the 1993 powerstrokes have this same transmision?  my father in laws tranny just went out in his 1993 ford.  3rd tranny he has replaced.  I will try to find out, because he will be in the process of replacing the tranny within a few weeks.  Are these tranny's available yet?

 the 93 needed many upgrades from the E4OD, they went from a 3 pinion planet to a 4 pinion planet. and then to the over all 4r100  Look on the right hand side of the case for the tag numbers  or PM me your VIN numberI will check for you in the AM if they can be interchanged with some modifications. I dont think they can.

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I am pretty sure the pwerstroke came out 94.5.  If you Father-In-Law's truck is a 93 & has a 7.3.  It is a IDI International.  If he has the 4 speed tranny (E4OD if I am remembering right) those are a weak point.  From everything I have read they do not hold up to well.  The C6 3 speed is a better tranny from what I have read.  Never had the 4 sp. though.
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the 7.3 IDI Started as the up grade from the 6.9 IDI  93 and 94 are a split year the options for the Powerstroke and or the 7.3 IDI and IDIT. The differences are clear being a direct injected and turbo charged but none of the parts will interchange from the IDI to the DI.
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« Reply #4 on: December 27, 2006, 10:00:18 PM »

thanks chuck, my father-in-law lives in orlando and has already made arrangements to purchase a brand new transmission.  i got your message this morning, phone was in truck last night.  i will give ya a shout this week sometime, thanks for the great information for us old ancient 7.3 guys.  hey how is the new 6.4 doing?
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« Reply #5 on: December 27, 2006, 10:05:19 PM »

thanks chuck, my father-in-law lives in orlando and has already made arrangements to purchase a brand new transmission.  i got your message this morning, phone was in truck last night.  i will give ya a shout this week sometime, thanks for the great information for us old ancient 7.3 guys.  hey how is the new 6.4 doing?
Have not seen the 6.4's yet I have my fingers crossed that FORD actually did sufficient R&D before the release of another flopped Diesel
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« Reply #6 on: December 27, 2006, 10:16:29 PM »

the 7.3 IDI Started as the up grade from the 6.9 IDI  93 and 94 are a split year the options for the Powerstroke and or the 7.3 IDI and IDIT. The differences are clear being a direct injected and turbo charged but none of the parts will interchange from the IDI to the DI.
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Right on.  For some reason I was thinking it only 94.  You could get turbo on the later IDI years too.  I know the parts won't change, not even close. 
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« Reply #7 on: December 28, 2006, 08:52:51 AM »

Does the transmision problem affect all 7.3's up to 03'?

cuz my dad has an 03'......Thanks

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« Reply #8 on: December 30, 2006, 10:28:45 AM »

thanks chuck, my father-in-law lives in orlando and has already made arrangements to purchase a brand new transmission.  i got your message this morning, phone was in truck last night.  i will give ya a shout this week sometime, thanks for the great information for us old ancient 7.3 guys.  hey how is the new 6.4 doing?
Have not seen the 6.4's yet I have my fingers crossed that FORD actually did sufficient R&D before the release of another flopped Diesel

Couldn't agree more w/the flopped 6.0L.  But I work at a Ford truck dealership in Orlando and have been noticing a dropping trend in how many of the '05 and '06 6.0L's we've been seeing down in the shop.  Owners keeping up on the oil changes (5k or hrs) and fuel filters (every 15k) are an absolute must and will help keep these trucks on the road. 

I believe Ford has been doing extensive research on this new 6.4L-the release date has been pushed back at least 3-4 times that I can recall!

I don't know if Chuck had already mentioned this, but when you buy a reman transmission at a Ford dealership-no matter what model transmission (up to medium duty I believe), the transmission comes with a 3yr/75,000 mile warranty (parts/labor)!!
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« Reply #9 on: December 30, 2006, 11:13:06 PM »

what is the retail cost from ford.  I think that is the real issue, COST.  could be wrong.  if i am going to put a tranny in my truck it will be BTS or suncoast and Chuck and I discussed this on friday.
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« Reply #10 on: January 01, 2007, 01:52:07 PM »

I'll find out a price and post it tomorrow.
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« Reply #11 on: January 01, 2007, 09:13:18 PM »

what is the retail cost from ford.  I think that is the real issue, COST.  could be wrong.  if i am going to put a tranny in my truck it will be BTS or suncoast and Chuck and I discussed this on friday.

Smoke and any other members that can benefit from the use of the HD Tranny's I can probably do 10% over the cost mentioned above plus your core.. Keep in Mind you care must be empty and rebuildable(EMPTY as in no fluid left in the case or converter) delivery wil be extra.
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« Reply #12 on: January 02, 2007, 10:55:02 AM »

chuck thanks for all the information.  My father-in-law went with a jasper transmission.  they gave him 3 year / 75,000 mile warranty I think. 
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