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Author Topic: Anyone reading about the Everglades Headwater Proposal?  (Read 107030 times)
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« Reply #150 on: September 10, 2011, 10:42:15 AM »

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« Reply #151 on: September 10, 2011, 06:37:38 PM »

Try this one http://www.fws.gov/southeast/evergladesheadwaters/

Then scroll down about half way and clik on Environmental Assessment and check the pages listed plus more.

Any hunter thinks there is a bone in this waste of money for him is going to be disappointed.

Oppose  Oppose  Oppose and save much time and effort for a disappointment 10 or 15 years from now.

Better to save we taxpayers money and not be indebted over this bad idea.
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« Reply #152 on: September 15, 2011, 09:10:25 PM »

So far one of the advertised purposes to spend $700,000,000 for this 1st phase of a bad Headwaters idea is to improve the water quality flowing South into the Everglades.

What a crock of BS. The excerpt below from the Headwaters Environmental Assessment acknowledges that claim is at best a stretch at worst a downright lie to the American people and the US Congress.

The excerpt below from pg 261 is explaining the effects of USFWS's preferred alternative Alternative C upon Manatee habitat.


West Indian Manatee

Alternative C would likely do little to protect or conserve manatees. This is mainly because the

species is present 30 miles downstream of the southernmost Alternative C lands in the extreme lower

Kissimmee River and Lake Okeechobee. There may be some small water quality benefits by the

protection of 50,000 acres of land, and the 100,000-acre conservation easements, but there would be

other opportunities for water quality to be degraded after it leaves Alternative C lands an before it

reaches waters occupied by manatees.

Go to this link http://www.fws.gov/southeast/evergladesheadwaters/ clik it and then go to Environmental Assessment about half way down the page and clik that, then wait the few minutes it takes to open and go to pg 261 to see the above words in this US Government document for yourself.

This excerpt exposes "the water quality improvement portion" of the marketing strategy of the USFWS and ALL of their Partners to steal this $700,000,000 as an attempt to deceive everyone concerned about this bad idea.

Everybody reading this should copy and paste this post and send it to their US Congressman and US Senator so that they will never be able to use the excuse they didn't know that the Headwaters was a scam.

Thanks for caring enough to read this.

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« Reply #153 on: September 16, 2011, 02:03:06 PM »

Public Hearings to be held on Headwaters.

 

These hearings are a bigger deal than previous meetings.

 

The key word is Hearing which means all comments are transcribed verbatim into the record of this bad idea.

 

Dates, places and times below:

 

Two public hearings have been scheduled.

 

One will be held 1-5 PM on Saturday, September 24th at the South Florida Community College Center for Performing Arts, 600 W. College Drive, Avon Park, Fl.

 

The second hearing will be held 1-5 PM on Saturday, October 1 at Osceola Heritage Park, Exhibition Building Hall A 1901 Osceola Trail, Kissimmee Fl. 34744.

 

Hopefully even more will attend these meetings than before.

 

The same opposition  messages need to be conveyed to USFWS whether u think this bad idea will hurt u or not if for no other reason than to reduce the amount of debt that will fall upon your children and grand children because of it if it proceeds forward. Headwaters type programs are what causes it.

 

This can be stopped if people stick together for at least this once in our lifetime.
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« Reply #154 on: September 21, 2011, 06:13:33 PM »

Just a Reminder

The meetings mentioned in the previous post happen THIS Saturday in Avon Park and NEXT Saturday in Kissimmee.

These are meeting folks better be willing to skip a day of hunting, airboating etc. to attend so as to get rid of this chunk of FEDERAL CANCER coming to Central Florida.

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« Reply #155 on: September 22, 2011, 11:14:09 AM »

Hearings such as the ones happening this Saturday in Avon Park and next Saturday in Kissimmee are a very very BIG Deal.

These Hearings are where USFWS will have court reporter types in the room with steno machines to produce verbatim transcripts of everyone's public statements to keep on record forever. They will not be allowed to para-phrase our statements as was done in earlier comments. These transcripts are amazing - if you scream your opposition they will note in the transcript that you were screaming. A transcript really puts the reader in the room as if they are there. That makes it important since elected officials who don't attend can be directed to these transcripts at a later date to gain a full understanding of how local people feel about this bad idea called Headwaters.

This is why it is so Important for our voices in the room to be many and loud. Danny B. style will work well.

If one doesn't quite know what to say "NO - Hell No" in many languages will work.

Please be willing to sacrifice one day to protect our heritage from this Federal Cancer.

Hearing Attendance is absolutely Critical to Defeating this bad idea.
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« Reply #156 on: September 27, 2011, 09:09:38 PM »

Major hunting & conservation umbrella group has recently voted to oppose Headwaters 100% including any so-called WMA managed by FWC since they (FWC) will never be fully in charge.



At least one meeting with another Congressman will happen the week of Apr 18, 2011



Anyone who missed commenting to the scoping process may have a chance to tell USFWS what they think around May or June if this bad idea isn't dead by then.



All previously suggested comments will still be valid to be used for USFWS's Land Protection Plan should it be produced

The last sentence in bold in the quote is NOW wrong.

Having read some of the LPP it is evident our exposure of their intent to do this has caused USFWS to remove this Wilderness trick from their bag of tricks.
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« Reply #157 on: October 14, 2011, 12:46:48 AM »

USFWS Partners are BEGGING/GROVELING for Headwaters Support


Partners of USFWS are begging from all quarters for us to back off and support their bad idea. Many emails have been flying today from very high altitudes requesting us to disregard the truth and our true values to support their bad idea.

 They will be offering many bones in the near future to try to entice and divide us but it is up to all of us who understand those offering the bones and crumbs today will NOT be around in the future to keep their promises so let them know there is NO SALE Here of the Headwaters.

 COMMENT   COMMENT    COMMENT    to EvergladesHeadwatersProposal@fws.gov and let them know again. This is extremely important at this critical time during this Land Protection Plan comment cycle. Now is the time for all of us to gently squeeze our comment triggers to fire the comment shots needed to  kill this marauding Headwaters predator and rid ourselves of it once and for all.

 Even if the Feds truly wanted to keep their promises; their own laws, regulations, Presidential executive orders will prevent them doing so.

 On top of that the same type so called environmental/conservation organizations that have filed 2 lawsuits this week against hunters and ORV users in Big Cypress WILL be doing the same thing in the Kissimmee/Headwaters area.

 
A giant thanks to everyone in advance for helping because without your tireless efforts USFWS would get away with their bait and switch rip-off as they have before.
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« Reply #158 on: October 14, 2011, 08:54:30 PM »

Please folks, send your comments to the link provided above. You'll know they received it when you get this;
Thank you for contacting us at the US Fish and Wildlife Service. We appreciate your interest in the proposed Everglades Headwaters National Wildlife Refuge and Conservation Area. This response confirms that we have received your message. The Draft Land Protection Plan and Draft Environmental Assessment are currently available for public review and comment. Please visit our website for more information about this project, to get on the mailing list, or to view the proposed map and the draft documents: http://www.fws.gov/southeast/evergladesheadwaters/. Comments are due on or before October 24, 2011.
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« Reply #159 on: October 24, 2011, 09:28:01 AM »

Check the map, any recreation past hiking and birdwatching is at stake.  I personally would rather see the monies used for teachers, firefighters, law enforcement or heck, for OUR benefit, not to take even MORE land from our use.   This email was in my inbox this morning:

Comment Deadline Extended to November 25, 2011

The US Fish and Wildlife Service is pleased to announce the extension of the public review and comment period for the draft Land Protection Plan (LPP) and draft Environmental Assessment (EA) for the proposed Everglades Headwaters National Wildlife Refuge and Conservation Area. The October 24, 2011 comment deadline has been extended to November 25, 2011.

To ensure consideration of your comments in the development of the final LPP and EA, please ensure that we receive your comments on or before November 25, 2011. Comments may be emailed to us at EvergladesHeadwatersProposal@fws.gov; faxed to 321.861.1276; or mailed to Everglades Headwaters Proposal, PO Box 2683, Titusville, FL 32781-2683. Names and addresses should be included with comments, with the understanding that the material is subject to the federal Freedom of Information Act and may be released to the public upon request.

Copies of the documents and additional information are available online (http://www.fws.gov/southeast/evergladesheadwaters/). Paper and/or CD copies of the documents can be requested by calling 321.861.0667.

Cheri M Ehrhardt, AICP
Natural Resource Planner

US Fish & Wildlife Service
PO Box 2683
Titusville, FL 32781-2683

Cheri_Ehrhardt@fws.gov
321.861.2368 office
321.861.1276 fax
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« Reply #160 on: November 01, 2011, 10:42:31 PM »

DO NOT Miss Watching the live video feed from the Hearing noticed below by Congress.

Headwaters Will Be Discussed - Our People Will Testify See Below

 This Week -  This Thursday, November 3 feed starts at 9:50 a.m.

To watch go to this link and click on "Watch Live Hearings at 9:50 am this Thursday. Nov 3

Hearings
Subcommittee on Fisheries, Wildlife, Oceans and Insular Affairs Oversight Hearing on "Florida Everglades Restoration: What are the Priorities?"
Thursday, November 3, 2011 10:00 AM
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SUBCOMMITTEE ON FISHERIES,WILDLIFE, OCEANS AND INSULAR AFFAIRS
1324 Longworth House Office Building
Thursday, November 3, 2011
10:00 a.m.

OVERSIGHT HEARING ON:

    * "Florida Everglades Restoration: What are the Priorities?"

WITNESSES AND TESTIMONY:

Panel I

The Honorable Jo-Ellen Darcy
Assistant Secretary of the Army (Civil Works)
Department of Defense

Rachel Jacobson
Acting Assistant Secretary for Fish, Wildlife and Parks
Department of the Interior

Panel II

The Honorable William P. Horn
Past Member, National Academy of Science’s
Committee on Independent Scientific Review of Everglades Restoration Progress

The Honorable Rick Dantzler
Co-Chairman
Northern Everglades Alliance

Eric Draper
Executive Director
Audubon of Florida

Bishop Wright, Jr.
President
Florida Airboat Association

Jorge P. Gutierrez, Jr.
President
Everglades Coordinating Council


BACKGROUND:

The hearing will examine the impacts of the Comprehensive Everglades Restoration Plan, a component of the Water Resources Development Act. In 2000, Congress enacted the Comprehensive Everglades Restoration Plan as a component of the Water Resources Development Act, committing to spend at least $13.5 billion for the restoration of the Florida Everglades. To date, none of the 68 projects of the Comprehensive Restoration Plan are completed. Despite the fact that the Fish and Wildlife Service has an operations and maintenance backlog in excess of $3.4 billion, they plan to acquire 150,000 acres of land in Central Florida for inclusion within the National Wildlife Refuge System at a cost of more than $700 million. The focus of the hearing is to examine how the 150,000 acres acquired will contribute to the overall goal of restoring the Florida Everglades, how the Service intends to pay for the 150,000 acres it intends to acquire through fee titles and conservation easements, what assurances they will provide in terms of public access and wildlife dependent recreation within the refuge and conservation area, and how the four locally affected Florida counties will be compensated for lost tax revenues.





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« Reply #161 on: December 02, 2011, 11:21:09 PM »

Any update? The threats remain and will never go away.  http://www.nraila.org/Legislation/Federal/Read.aspx?id=7186
We must remain vigilant!
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« Reply #162 on: December 21, 2011, 07:43:05 AM »

I'm not an owner yet. I was looking to buy a lot next year, how I can help? Maybe sending letters or e-mails to governor Scott or this is a strictly federal issue?
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